I had these specific Patriot 8 shoes, very comfortable and relaxing, recommended for many hours, but in front of the big toe, a hole opened in about 2 months of daily use (waiter), the seams came off and the fabric underneath has been worn out in that specific area, and I only wore them 1-2 times a week and they lasted me 6 months. Really a shame! Otherwise, the best athletic shoe I have worn!